IMO, an important thing to remember about the "dying during character generation" is that it's not just there as flavor. Rather, the survival roll is there as a potential check to everyone staying in the service(s) until they muster out as highly-skilled, wealthy Generals and Admirals with knighthoods - "super" and/or high-level characters, in the terms of this game. It turns the process into gambling, essentially: do you cash out now to keep what you've won, or keep rolling and hope you don't get snake eyes? -- --------------- Kelly St. Clair xxxxxx@efn.org