This is a pretty harsh review and after reading T5 I understand where he's coming from. I *want* to like T5, but I find that it's almost painful to read because there are just too many charts and too many acronyms that the fun sort of filters out. https://blackcampbell.com/2016/05/12/quick-review-traveler-5th-edition-or-the-ultimate-edition/ Kurt -- Kurt Feltenberger xxxxxx@thepaw.org/xxxxxx@yahoo.com “Before today, I was scared to live, after today, I'm scared I'm not living enough." - Me