On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 09:45:04PM +0100, Knapp wrote: > Are there any engineers here that can say one way or the other what > would happen if you set a Tigress down lightly on the Earth, say > even in a small lake or other structure that might support it a > little bit? The overall structure should be perfectly fine. It is designed to support internal stresses from its manuevering thrusters up to 6g, and has decent enough agility that it must have a lot of lateral bracing as well. The mass of the armour is a decent fraction of the mass of the whole ship, so it must be very strongly braced just to remain intact under such maneuvers. One should expect at least a factor of 3 in design stress vs expected conditions, so it should be capable of supporting its own mass under something like 18 gee accelerations. However, the entire weight of the ship acting through a small portion of the area would probably be enough to crumple that area. The question is whether the ground would squish first - and a quick BotE check suggests that many surfaces would. Certainly most types of structures on the hull in the contact area would be crushed, and there may be some localized deformation and damage in the bottom percent or two of the ship's volume. Landing in an alluvial plain or other area with a fairly thick layer of relatively soft ground would probably result in the ship sinking a few metres -- until the contact area was sufficient to reduce the ground pressure. The contact area at that time would be on the order of 50 metres aross. Over subsequent years the ship would slowly subside further, probably up to about 20-30 metres unless prevented by reaching more solid rock. If the ship was in condition to do densitometry scans, it could probably find a suitable site to reduce damage while preventing too much subsidence. Landing on a hard rock surface (or a place with hard rock just a metre or two below the surface) would be a worse proposition. Unless the hull were *very* much stiffer than necessary for ordinary operation, the lower few metres would definitely crumple making the lowest few percent of the ship unusable, and with some deformations extending higher. Still, the vast majority of the ship would remain intact. - Tim