Re: [TML] High Guard missile bay launch
Phil Pugliese 26 Oct 2015 15:16 UTC
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On Sun, 10/25/15, Kurt Feltenberger <xxxxxx@thepaw.org> wrote:
Subject: Re: [TML] High Guard missile bay launch
To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com
Date: Sunday, October 25, 2015, 4:59 PM
On 10/25/2015 7:38 PM,
Robert wrote:
> Kurt Feltenberger
wrote:
>> I like the sci-fi aspect
where things we don't know today, or
>> don't even conceive of today, are
possible tomorrow using concepts that
>> to us are what a 747 or SSN would be
to someone from 1000AD.
>
> I get tired of this variation of the
argument from ignorance.
>
> Pi doesn't stop being pi in the Far
Future.
> Gold will still have an atomic
number of 79.
> Light will always be a
particle and a wave.
> Etc.
>
> Knowledge is
additive.
> What we know now doesn't
go away because it's the day after tomorrow.
> Its importance will change.
>
> Technology will
change. But it will have limits and will be internally
> consistent.
>
> I don't mind 'magic'
technology either. Thought needs to be put into
> it, though, to prevent stupid
consequences.
>
>
"Guns made of marshmallows and candy sprinkles with
infinite
> ammunition capacity"
give me the shits.
> They do nothing for
my 'sensawunda' and really detract from my
> enjoyment of a game or story.
>
> Just another
gamer's thoughts.
Ignorance, Robert? I never said constants
would change, just that
applying what we
know today and saying that something can't work because
science as we know it today can't make
it happen is the problem. We
just
don't know what we don't know.
What we *knew* was possible even in 1850 would
generally state that the
technology we have
today is impossible, that it would be magic, and yet
as time progressed our efficiency and knowledge
improved.
We're all
entitled to our opinions, but let's leave the
intentional
absurdity and insults out of
it.
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I'm on Kurt's side here;
Remember that once-upon-a-time Newton's Laws were believed to apply to velocities ad infinitum, but now?
Well things have changed a whole lot in just a few hundred years.
I believe that further changes in the next 10,000 will be quite literally inconceivable.
ObTrav; hence the 'culture-shock' that occurs when minor races are first contacted.
All of a sudden the geniuses seem to turn into know-nothings. But it's not their intelligence that's in question. They're just ignorant of all that knowledge that has suddenly manifested itself literally 'out-of-the-blue'.
Not to mention the underlying principles behind it.
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