Re: TL, Trade and You [WAS: Re: [TML] Finding transport]
Phil Pugliese 08 May 2015 15:59 UTC
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On Thu, 5/7/15, Richard Aiken <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: TL, Trade and You [WAS: Re: [TML] Finding transport]
To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com
Date: Thursday, May 7, 2015, 5:04 PM
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at
11:22 AM, Greg Nokes <xxxxxx@nokes.name>
wrote:
My only issue is that TL5
rock with out a survivable biosphere. Then, they cannot
locally produce the food and essential gear that they need
locally to survive - so all of the environmental suits, air
scrubbers etc need to be shipped
in.
If the settlement is burrowed into
solid rock - in order to give it easily-maintained
hermetically-sealed caverns - then a decent-sized population
can easily be supported by a native TL of 5. It just
wouldn't be *Earth's* TL 5. Rather than
smoke-belching coal-fired power plants, it uses massive fuel
cells (first invented in 1839). Rather than open air fields
of crops, it has carefully-maintained greenhouse wells
covered by sheets of thick glass; the gardeners for Emperor
Tiberius (42 BC - 37 AD) constructed the first
recognizably-modern
greenhouse. I guess that’s been one
of my issues with OTU. I think that the local production TL
is the worlds TL, however savvy merchants are going to bring
cases of the new gear from the local high TL production
center to those mooks and sell them at a
margin.
The local mooks don't have
either economic or political power. That's why they are
mooks. Off-world merchants aren't going to be interested
in them, particularly given the high interstellar transport
expenses of the canon OTL. IMHO over a thousand
years, TL is going to level out at some base (TL9? 10? 12?)
and the higher TL systems will bring up the TL in a sphere
of influence around them.
Probably. But then the populace of
those planets have stopped being mooks, assuming they've
acquired at least indirect economic and political
power. tbh, I see
pocket empires more defined by higher TL systems then
anything else. That’s where the Imperial Nobles for the
area would want to live after all - do you want to live in a
shack or have all of the automation and comfort a fully
supported TL15 house and infrastructure would bring?
At TL 15 it's easy to build an
estate that's totally self-sufficient. Imperial High
Nobles can therefore live anywhere they wish, even
completely alone in the middle of an otherwise-empty
asteroid belt. Depending upon their personal Paranoia
Quotient, they may not *want* populated planets surrounding
their homes. :)
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Remember the immortal living w/ robots/androids in the old TOS StarTrek episode.
That could easily be extrapolated into a wealthy noble using anagathics long-term.
*Very* long-term!
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