On 7/5/2020 1:29 AM, xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote:
> Does anyone recall how long it took to charge the drive in Annic Nova? And how
> close did you have to be to a sun if it was using solar radiation? One would
> think being in the outer sysem would really slow that down.... (energy density
> would be much less)
>
Collectors are described in the T5 rules (T5.10 book 2 p.56)
The Collector is a specialized alternative Power Source.
It slowly absorbs exotic particle energy and releases it in a
burst which can fuel interstellar drives. A Collector is half internal mechanism
and half external extendable canopy. One full charge provides the
power requirement for a Jump Drive of equal Drive Potential.
Collector table (T5.10 book 2 p.76), the collector is available at TL 14, with
each TL advance giving a +1 to the collector drive potential. So a Jump-4 drive
requires a Collector-4 to power
The Drive Potential Table (T5.10 Book 2 p.77,78) give how the # of ton of
collector converts to a drive potential.
After about 150 Charges (perhaps six years of travelling), the Canopy needs to
be replaced at a cost of MCr52.5, which is about Cr350,000 per Jump-2.
Though, you know, The rules don't describe how long it takes to charge the
collector.
According to JTAS1 (p. 27), the charging time is 1D weeks.
> On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 11:38 PM Thomas RUX <xxxxxx@comcast.net
> <mailto:xxxxxx@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> __
> Hello Phil,
>
>> On 07/04/2020 5:20 PM Phil Pugliese - philpugliese at yahoo.com
>> <http://yahoo.com> (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com
>> <mailto:xxxxxx@simplelists.com>> wrote:
>>
>> On Friday, July 3, 2020, 05:49:13 AM MST, Thomas RUX <xxxxxx@comcast.net
>> <mailto:xxxxxx@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Phil,
>>> On 07/02/2020 8:49 PM Phil Pugliese - philpugliese at yahoo.com
>>> <http://yahoo.com> (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com
>>> <mailto:xxxxxx@simplelists.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 11:54:38 PM MST, Rupert Boleyn
>>> <xxxxxx@gmail.com <mailto:xxxxxx@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 01Jul2020 1811, Phil Pugliese - philpugliese at yahoo.com
>>> <http://yahoo.com> (via tml
>>> list) wrote:
>>> > It's not a question of YTU or MTU & I never, ever said that NO fuel is
>>> > needed at all.
>>> >
>>> > The question is HOW MUCH fuel does a starship need to have avail AFTER
>>> > it enters J-space.
>>> >
>>> > The whole idea of d-tanks indicates that it isn't very much at all.
>>> >
>>> > You seem to be saying that IF the capacitors were charged w/o using
>>> > fuel, then it needs a full load of fuel in order to make a jump.
>>> > OTOH, if the ship uses a whole lot of fuel before the jump then it
>>> > doesn't need as much.
>>> >
>>> > It just doesn't make any sense to require the same amount of fuel in
>>> > both instances.
>>> Not so. If you take the LLB 2 1981 and HG view that jump drives need
>>> power from the power plant, then the black globe charging the capacitors
>>> replaces this power requirement. Therefore, it has nothing to do with
>>> the jump fuel requirement, which remains the same no matter what.
>>> Problem solved.
>>>
>>> --
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> Well that depends on exactly what the massive expenditure of L-Hyd just
>>> before jumping accomplishes.
>>> I believe most folks would say that what is accomplished is charging the
>>> capacitors.
>>> In that case the same amount of jump fuel would NOT be required.
>>> Just like with the Annic Nova.
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>> The Annic Nova uses a solar radiation collector to charge accumulators,
>> some sort of giant battery?, that acts as a power plant to charge the jump
>> capacitors and make a jump. Upon arriving at the destination the solar
>> collector begins to charge the accumulators again. Of course if there is
>> enough charge in the accumulators the ship can jump immediately.
>>
>> Tom Rux
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Doesn't seem to need any L-Hyd at all, ISTR.
>> And it is 'CANON(tm)'.
>> I guess all the power to operate the ship comes from those collectors so
>> it must be Ancient Tech, just like black globes.
> Your are correct that there is only one design that does not use L-Hyd,
> which does seem to indicate that it is either Ancient Tech or perhaps the
> sophonts that built it did not get the memo that L-Hyd had to be used.
>
> The Express Boat is also canon which does not have a power plant to charge
> the jump drive either, unless the power plant is built into the jump drive.
>
> Tom Rux
>
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