On 11/8/25 05:38, kaladorn at gmail.com (via tml list) wrote:
> Alex,
>
> It would, if the world(s) of the 3I made sense! (I could also say the
> same on our TL 8.5 Hi Pop Industrial Rich planet....)
>
> To go into my view of empires, their conquests, and how they have been
> historically treated. And especially where large scale capitalism has
> resulted in unfathomable sized Megacorporations.
>
> I'll also add that I used some of the original valuations tables for
> monetary exchange from the original JTAS run back when. If you are on
> a low tech, low pop type of place with no great Starport, your credit
> (vs. the Imperial credit) could be 0.10 to 0.05 of an Imperial credit
> or it might not even have a valuation.
>
> So the money issue would be huge, even if there wasn't the 'look at
> these barbarians' attitude form the more 'nose up in the air' crowd.
>
> Even if players want to go to the nearest decent place to get some
> supplies and bring them back, they wouldn't probably even make even,
> let alone make a profit.
>
> The GT branch has a very different Empire (and a lot more sanity in
> how characters were created also). It's a more intrusive, more
> engaged, more woven together than the early CT or even some of the
> other versions (I'd say at least until T4).
>
> TomB

Tom,

Like say a G3TL5 world buying low-end panimmunity (+2 to HT rolls vs
infection on 3d6, not +5 or +8) _not_ from a G3TL12 or G3TL10 world, but
a G3TL9 one?

Per GT:FT p48 sidebar (for lack of better reference), the G3TL5 world's
credits swap for 0.03 CrImp, and the G3TL9 world's credits swap for 0.20
CrImp - unless I miss my numbers, the G3TL5 world's credits will swap
for 0.15 of the G3TL9 world's credits.

The low-end panimmunity would still result in members of a deployed
(sub)unit or formation damaging the doulton while a gastro bug passes
through (in more than one sense) - for a bug with no modifier to
infection, 50% of the servicecritters would be busy damaging the doulton
without panimmunity, while 26% of them would be laid up with low-end
panimmunity (4.5% with mid-end panimmunity, 2% with top-end
panimmunity).  For a nastier bug with a -3 modifier to HT rolls,
corresponding percentages are 84% for no panimmunity, 63% for low-end
panimmunity, 26% for mid-end panimmunity and 4.5% with top-end panimmunity.

This discounts vaccinations against specific maladies (widespread in
OTL, no reason to expect that to lessen by the 57th century given the
plagues (such as influenza and measles) that spread from Nusku after IW3).

Given the 3I is a _trade_ -based polity at heart, I'd be a little
surprised if at least some of the "nose up in the air" crowd _don't_
take the barbarians' money.

IMGTU, I've had some subsector governments (such as the Five Sisters)
supply mid-end panimmunity to _all_ worlds in their demesne, on public
health grounds - better to protect technoeconomic juggernauts from
potential plague pits elsewhere in the subsector by _preventing_, or at
least _heavily mitigating_, the potential for such.  If said juggernauts
want to supply top-end panimmunity to their populations, their
governments are welcome to top up what the subsector government provides.

A bug that evolves to cause top-end panimmunity a problem would quickly
become a problem for _everyone_.

Alex