On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 03:49:55AM -0400, Richard Aiken wrote: > But you can't use that "wasted" energy to propell a non-collapsing saboted > round. This is because such a "much simpler" round will fragment inside a > non-tapering barrel when subjected to the same level of exploding force > that a collapsing round in a tapered bore experiences. Okay, now you're just mnaking shit up, and I'm finished with this discussion. - Tim