On 27Oct2024 2324, Phil Pugliese - philpugliese at yahoo.com (via tml list) wrote: > I'm a little puzzled wrt how anyone could possibly think that 'Laws' > will ever or have ever superseded 'Men'. > > If 'men' are involved in any sort of decision-making wrt legal matters > it will ALWAYS be "Men, not Laws". > > Just look at how the legal process works here on earth. > > Just look at all the instances where 'men' make a decision whether to > enforce, proceed, prosecute, etc, etc, etc. > > It happens all the time & each & every time, from the beat cop, for > whatever reason, overlooking infractions to prosecutors deciding whether > & how to proceed with cases & even to the decisions of juries. > (Note; after I served on a jury in a major case & witnessing numerous > violations of 'The Rules' wrt juror conduct, I proceeded, over the last > 40 years, to make inquires of anyone I encountered wrt what happened. In > each & every case, the respective juror admitted to misconduct &, to > varying degrees, was either dismissive or proud of their behavior. A > jury trial really is, as I've heard more than a few times, a crap shoot) > > 'Men' have always & will always be the final determining factor, not 'Laws'. > > Can't really be any surprise there. Of course, but there is a difference between having a law that says "Member worlds shall not use nuclear weapons, except when invaded by non-Imperial states" (for example) and a system of courts that, however imperfectly, attempt to interpret that law impartially and having a *custom* and 'understanding' that worlds shall not nuke each other that is enforced, or not, at the pleasure of local sub-sector ruler. No, the difference is not absolute, or binary, and is one of degree, but to say that there isn't a difference between how the Imperium imposes law (especially the 'laws of war') and how the Western world of today does, and a difference in the underlying theory, is incorrect. -- Rupert Boleyn <xxxxxx@gmail.com>