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Destroyer tonnage...
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Peter Berghold
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Ian Whitchurch
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Here's some number from the USN in WWII.
(split manning #'s indicate peacetime/wartime)
'Wickes' class DD (1000dT standard, 1400 full load) complement 153
'Clemson' class DD (1000dT standard, 1400 full load) complement 153
'Farragut' class DD (1400dT standard, 2200 full load) complement 160/250
'Porter' class DD (1900dT standard, 2800 full load) complement 194/294
'Allen M. Sumner' class DD (2200dT standard, 3500 full load) complement 350
'Atlanta' class CL (6000dT standard, 8000 full load) complement 623/810
'New Orleans' class CA (10,000dT standard, 13,000 full load) complement 700/1200
'Baltimore' class CA (13,500dT standard, 17,000 full load) complement 1100/1700
'Alaska' class CB {not BC!} (27,500dT standard, 34,000 full load) complement 1370/2251
'New York' class BB (27,000dT standard, 32,000 full load) complement 1314/1530
'North Carolina' class BB (35,000dT standard, 47,000 full load) complement 1880/2339
'Iowa' class BB (45,000dT standard, 57,000 full load) complement 1921/2850
'Yorktown' class CV (20,000dT standard, 25,500 full load) complement 1889/2919
'Essex' class CV (27,000dT standard, 33,000 full load) complement 3448
'Midway' class CVB (45,000dT standard, 60,000 full load) complement 2510/4104
I think it could be said that "They really packed 'em in" back then.
p.s. The 'Atlanta' class CL was 540' by 53' so it's the closest to the 'Spruance' dimension-wise.
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On Sun, 9/14/14, Peter Berghold <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: [TML] Destroyer tonnage...
To: "tml" <xxxxxx@simplelists.com>
Date: Sunday, September 14, 2014, 7:12 PM
what are peoples
thoughts on getting the same sort of performance and crew
size between wet navy ships and star ships.
I was putting together some specs for a ship
similar in nature to the Spruance Class destroyers (I was on
the USS Cushing, a SpruCan) and got the impression right
away that a 1 to 1 mapping was not going to
work.
The SpruCans were 563 fee long with a 52 foot
beam. The crew was (when I was aboard) 15 officers and 225
enlisted crew. When I plugged the displacement (8000 tons)
into MT rules and tried to put a ship together the numbers
just didn't add up.
Thoughts?
--
Peter L.
Berghold xxxxxx@gmail.com
http://blog.berghold.net
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