I think a lot of fictional private detectives were something else - often only vaguely connected - in their prior careers. For example, the reimagining if Holmes and Watson seen in the current TV show "Elementary" has a (more-or-less) traditional origin for Holmes, but Watson's has been twisted significantly. When first encountered, she is a discredited ex-surgeon now making a living as a paid "sober companion" to well-off addicts (e.g. Sherlock, paid by his estranged father Morland). It is only as she experiences life in close proximity to Holmes that she decides to become his apprentice (and thus a PI).

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018, 8:33 AM greg caires <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
I think Thomas Magnum would also be amateur sleuth. He was a Seal not a cop.

So Investigator as a new career path...

Need College and or PI school. Easy enough to make for CT basic chargen, but for expanded I might need so inspiration.

We already have Bounty Hunters and Repo men so don’t need to overlap with them.

There was an old radio drama called Johnny Dollar he was an insurance investigator. Perhaps the merc ticket repatriation bond issuers (hortalez et CIE was it?) need investigating to avoid fraud.

Who else in a non government or military capacity needs a professional investigator?

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> On Oct 19, 2018, at 7:04 AM, Jeff Zeitlin <xxxxxx@freelancetraveller.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 15:23:40 -0400, greg caires <xxxxxx@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> So how would that work? Most PIs in literature are former police.
>
> Yes, many are, and some who weren't actual municipal cops had similar jobs
> in e.g., the military - but not all of them; one of the most famous,
> Sherlock Holmes, was not, for example; neither was Jessica Fletcher, of
> _Murder, She Wrote_ fame. Nor, to the best of my knowledge, were the Harts
> of _Hart to Hart_, or Remington Steele. So, while it's quite common, it's
> not universal.
>
> Also, I can safely say from talking to co-workers who are cops (I'm a
> civilian computer geek for the NYPD) that even ex-cop literary PI/PDs have
> had to develop skills that just don't happen with ordinary police work,
> even if you're a 'deep undercover' cop, simply _because_ even as an
> undercover cop you've got to be very careful not to operate even 'grey' -
> it taints any evidence you may gather, which kills your case when it comes
> to trial.
>
> The PI/PD is less constrained, in that respect; his cases aren't criminal
> investigations that are going to trial, and where the client is taking the
> case to civil court later, the same level of rigor isn't required, as long
> as the PI/PD hasn't clearly broken the law.
>
> So, yes, as I said, there's overlap - and admittedly a good amount of it -
> with the police detective, but it's only overlap, not synonymy.
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