Mechanical friction. You have the same energy losses, but what you do face is less resistance to the motion you’re trying to create.

On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 19:14 Richard Aiken <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
What is the list's opinion of this doohickey?

In trying to help a friend of mine with a paper on the future use of electricity in transportation, I came across mention of this thing. As near as I can tell, it's supposed to consist of pairs of opposing permanent magnets arranged in such a way that the attractive and repulsive characteristics of the magnet poles combine to turn a crank shaft without the need for an external source of power.

I know, I know. Sounds like a perpetual motion machine. Which is what I thought as well, at least initially.

But if you count the intrinsic attraction/repulsion as the energy input, then it doesn't create energy; it only redirects it.

I'm sure I'm missing something somewhere. But I just don't grok the math well enough to see where.

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