yes, fair point.

I had in mind the kind of buildings/aftermath from the Banda Ache region in that boxing day tsunami of 2004, but you're quire right, even so there's too little information.  (FWIW, I was picturing 'collapsed in the aftermath' and made of concrete but even so it's not enough.  But that was kind of the point of my teasing complaint about the rules not covering such situations!  (Yes, I'm aware you couln't possibly have a rule book that did cover every eventuality... well, T5 excepted.  :-)   and we did what normally gets done in such situations: make something up that seems reasonable and/or makes the game fun to play [1]).

thanks for responding though, I'll try and better define my question next time.

Meanwhile, it's The Traveller Adventure tonight!  We only play every other month, so it's always exciting.  And nerve wracking at this time of the day.  Depart in quarter of an hour for the pub.  Just heard our medic won't make it so bang goes the basic hit location chart I made him... ah well, maybe I could make more of it and send it to Freelance Traveller.  I'm struggling to think of a Traveller hit/wounds location thingie unless it's in 2300AD (or may an article by Andy Lilly in _Hellfire_ magazine called Gunshot or something.  I do NOT need the level of detail the things I've found from a quick Google search offer!

Anyway, hopefully we'll get to the end of Wolf at the Door - at last!

cheers
tc


[1]  Although I must admit, this particular scenario is the first I've come up with that's tonally very hard to judge.  It kind of wanted to be a comedy about a platoon of marines invading the scions' Downton Abbey like yacht when they get assigned to do relief operations, but against the background of tragic disaster it doesn't kind of work.  And it's odd, but using the 2004 tsunami as a reference point, even 14 years later, still almost feels too soon.  Fortunately my players are very patient.

On 17 May 2018 at 04:48, Richard Aiken <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 7:03 AM, Timothy Collinson <xxxxxx@port.ac.uk> wrote:
Roughly how much rubble would be left by a collapsed four story apartment block . . .

How much rubble can be moved by hand?


There are just too many possible variables to answer either question from the data given.

How large was the iniital wave? How far inland was the building? Did it take the full force of the tsunami? Or did it collapse in the aftermath, from having it's foundation undermined? How was the building constructed (stone? brick? steel? glass? other?)? Etc, etc, etc.

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