On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Craig Berry <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:

Definitely bears repeating. That's how they wore out their welcome in Europe. :)

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Kelly St. Clair <xxxxxx@efn.org> wrote:
On 5/11/2016 11:25 AM, Craig Berry wrote:

E.g. the Mayflower colonists were fleeing religious
persecution in Europe, having already worn out their welcome in Holland
and Britain.

It bears repeating, IMO, that the "persecution" the Puritans were fleeing was that people kept telling them they couldn't be intolerant assholes to everyone else. :/

IIRC, a major component of the "unwelcomeness" - at least in England - was that the Puritans were pressing for reform of the corrupt Anglican church. Not that the Anglican church was any more corrupt than any other major organization of the time. The Puritans had the effrontery to insist that it be (at least relatively) pure.

Richard Aiken

"Never insult anyone by accident." Robert A. Heinlein

"I studied the Koran a great deal. I came away from that study with the conviction there have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as Muhammed." Alexis de Tocqueville (1843)

"We know a little about a lot of things; just enough to make us dangerous." Dean Winchester

"It has been my experience that a gun doesn't care who pulls its trigger." Newton Knight (as portrayed by Matthew McConaughey), to a scoffing Confederate tax collector facing the weapons held by Knight's young children and wife.