On 24 June 2015 at 18:48, Richard Aiken <raikenclw@gmail.com> wrote:

My memory may not serve me well, but when I susbcribed to TML it didn't say the discussion was confined to Traveller canon, whatever VERSION that is.

I don't have ANY goals for my membership of TML, like a gold membership card or 'most arrogant in fewest posts' :-)

No comment.

A competent Squad NCO ...

A lieutenant ...

An air force pilot ...

And all of these individuals have *years* of training and experience in dealing with tense, multiple-input environments.

Says who?

Competence is measured how? My uncle had three months of competency training, then in three days was handed a squad of 7 to lead a section of four MGs. It was winter 1943. He lived long enough to tell my mother about this after the war.

They are NOT common "single-striper" infantrymen being expected to handle such multiple inputs and not create a host friendly fire incidents.

They are not indeed. For a time I knew a sapper who was in Korea, Malaya and Vietnam. As a sergeant he one day found himself leading a platoon of grunts because the Lt. and the jeep he was in went over a mine, and the platoon and the convoy were in an ambush. This was VERY far from his training, and no one would have expected anything from him. But, he didn't loose one more grunt that day.

Neither are they early 2000s born - or even "late 2100s born" - child drone operators being expected to do the same, fresh from their cradles.

You need to read what I write and not just critique odd snipets.

I did not EVEN SUGGEST child drone operators, did I?

Frankly its irrational that the Humanity's militaries would not have made ANY progress in developing battlespace awareness; just look at where they were in late 18th century.

It's not a military issue. It's a human brain issue. Expanding the number of inputs does not automatic expand the capability. The same meat brain is having to process all that data. Without extensive training, the brain's ability to process will simply be swamped. You *could* hand a portion of this necessary processing off to automation, but then you're trusting that your automation's programming is not going to make it's own errors. You may well find yourself becoming an expanding ball of plasma and particulates, because your dog-brain AI mis-assigned a low priority to a particular set of actually-vital data.

Drones are the capability.

I expect better AI than now two centuries from now.

And without that dog-brain I may find myself an exploding ball of plasma sooner. So what's your point?

There are no givens in combat. There is a famous Russian film called Cadets which is autobiographical.

One of the instructors in this artillery school is a veteran of the war with the Japanese and Finland, eventually gets sent tot he front, to be killed in Berlin with a shot in the back by a Hitler Youth member.

Cyborg is a rather more defined term than you think . . .

I did not mean "Terminator robot." I meant EXACTLY what you had put forward: children who remotely control drones from birth. That would have to include "mechatronic integrations." Unless you're seriously supposing a newborn infant can use a Gameboy remote? Or else you didn't actually mean your "from birth" and this was mere hyperbole?

I didn't say 'children control drones from birth'.

Or you just didn't read what I wrote?

I prefer 'extraterrestrial culture' to an 'alien race'. Its so 50s.

It's "alien" - as in "not of previous human experience" - because of the way that the entity's brain would need to *effectively* incorporate multiple perspectives into it's functioning FROM BIRTH. It matters not at all where the culture is located.

If you're going to post hyperbole, be prepared to have your insanity taken seriously. Or simply ignored along with the rest of your post (as I probably should be doing anyway).

You are doing just great creating, and arguing with your own hyperbole without my help.

Greg