On 21/06/2015 9:24 PM, Greg Chalik wrote:

On 21 June 2015 at 18:27, Knapp <magick.crow@gmail.com> wrote:
condescending

​I think I know something others may not.

This doesn't make anyone else less knowledgeable, and certainly not 'stupid'. If the individuals perceive this, it is their perception alone and certainly not my intent. There are many thinks I don't know, and I accept this. It seesm to me that it isn't necessary or possible to know everything. My pursuits are therefore focused on specific areas of knowledge and understanding them. Warfare is one such area.

Unfortunately the process of discovery almost always puts the discoverer or innovator in this position where its him against the rest because of...human nature for groupthink, i.e. safety in numbers.​ I would highly recommend The Innovator's Extinction by David Ulmer for further understanding of this phenomna.

Of course I don't know what others in this list know, and there is no way of finding out except to simply say things and wait for responses.
I have no way to control how people respond. That is down to personalities and their perceptions of me.
If anyone is interested, by own MBTI type is ENTP, though I used to be more I, and have sought to become more J.

Of course calling someone condescending often comes from a self-perception, often subcoscious, of being inferior. I can't really help what other people think or feel. All I can do is communicate.

Brett, what is it like when arguing with a designer? :-)
I'm not an engineer.
Mud however is a significant issue in the current TL when it comes to design of armoured vehicles :-)

Greg

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Hi Greg,

I've been on the list for a few years now but stay quiet mostly as I know there are a lot of people way smarter than I am on this list.  But what you said above got me to thinking, what do some of these smart people do for a crust?  I know what a few do by their signatures (Hi Bruce J & David JW) and I know more than a few are military/ex-military.  I know I've been told off in games I GM more than once how I got something about the military wrong (chain of command and ranks is something I got badly wrong once).

Myself, I work in IT in Local Government and more recently Education, having started Traveller in high school many years ago and have no more experience than a passion for science fiction.  Mind you I still think the mega computers of Traveller are cool. I have worked with a lot of engineers (not so with designers, I really like the only one I know) which is why that quote makes me chuckle as I have been on the end of many an argument with them.

One thing I do know working in IT is how often what is said in emails is sometimes taken the wrong way, both by something I wrote and things I have received.  I was told by a HR type one time it is because so much of how we communicate is non-verbal.

Man, am I starting to sound preachy? Time to pull my head back in and go sit quietly in the background.
:)

Brett.