To all, Although I have also stopped on occasion to clear a branch or similar obstacle from the road while cycling, proposing to make trash cleanup an expected part of participating in group rides is, in my opinion, setting people up for injury (as in, getting injured by a car while stopping, over and over, to pick up debris). If the route is that hazardous, why not call FDOT, or the County, or whoever has responsibility for keeping that particular public road clean, and see if they will send a crew out? Or, maybe choose another route, same as you would do when road construction creates an obvious hazard? If Team Florida rides this road frequently, maybe they should look into learing whether it is available for Adopt-A-Road adoption, and regular scheduled trash pickups by a group of concerned citizens? Better to pick up the trash while on foot, and not on your bike, and with proper signage up to notify motorists and safety vests (as those who come out for our GCC Adopt-a-Road cleanups will know about). I definitely wouldn't promote encouraging groups of cyclists out onto roads that are known to be hazardous, and then ask them to risk injury doing trash cleanup at the same time. Why invite trouble? Just a thought. -Allyson Gill ---- Tom Wells <tbwells@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Am totally in accord with Huan on this. After I am dropped -regularly- on > rides, I regularly do a tiny bit of road clearing - including 3 stops > continuing north on 441 after the broken Hipp ride last nite. What I Don't > do is pull out of the group to clear obstacles & chase back on. Can't. So > week after week we ride past the same crap in the road. Rather than going > for the sprint, I challenge the top riders to go for the Clear & Chase > Back. Alternatively - just drop me before the 1st road crap, e.g. before > the bridge on Hawthorne Rd. - during the warm-up. > > cleanliness is next to crashlessness > boy scout tom > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Huan Dinh <huan_dinh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > This was an email sent out to Team Florida listserve, and the Hipp ride is > > not sanction by any organization or club. However, US 441 northbound and > > southbound between Williston Rd and approximately the region around the > > North entrance of Lake Waulberg should to be avoided. In addition, these > > debris aren't going away by itself, so as a cyclist of the local community, > > if you are out riding by yourself and don't have a specific agenda, PLEASE > > be so kindly and pick some of these things up and throw it to the side. > > Some of you might have seen me stopped on Millhopper road picking things up > > on my easy recovery days. Beside sharing the roads with cars, we are also > > sharing the roads with each other, please help with doing the "right" thing. > > > > Thanks, > > Huan > > > > > Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:18:33 -0400 > > > From: geocycle@xxxxxxxx > > > Subject: Why you were laying on the road > > > To: TEAM-FLORIDA-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > Evidently, not enough people knew of this evening's ride plan. We > > > skipped Evinston in order to have enough light to do Short Wacahoota. > > > However, those in the front went straight up 441. 441 currently has too > > > much debris in the bike lane for a fast group ride. The rider in the > > > front ( I'm pretty sure who it was, but not 100% positive) rode right > > > into a piece of 2 x 4 and went down, taking those immediately behind down > > > as well. > > > > > > WATCH WHERE YOU ARE GOING ! ! ! 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