Ed,
You
can add me too as a supporter if you are going to do that. I ride with a
couple
of others on NW 16th and 23rd west of 43rd St weekday mornings
at
5:30 as part of a short 15 mile loop we do for exercise, not commuting.
We’ve
had no trouble with traffic at all, but realize it is early, which is why
we do
it then, plus getting to work is somewhat of a necessity. You might contact
Bob
Newman about sending something to the listserv asking for anyone on the
listserv who doesn’t want to be named as a supporter to e-mail him
and then
their name can be deleted from the supporter list. I think there will be
FAR
fewer non-supporters so it is easier to do it by opting out rather than
opting
in, I think.
The
other point that I don’t think has been made yet, unless I missed it,
is that this
isn’t only about NW
16th
Ave; this is about all of Gainesville
and Alachua
County. What happens here will be a
president for how they handle bike friendly roadways elsewhere in the city
and
county. If they get the message that it’s okay to not provide for
cycling
facilities as they improve roadways (granted Alachua County
has a dismal track record for improving or even repairing its roadways)
then
that will be the approach they take on future road segments that are
reviewed
for changes.
Just
my thoughts,
Michael Steinberg
From:
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[mailto:gccmail-manager@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of David
Quillen
Sent: Saturday, December 18,
2010
7:53 AM
To: Ed Gardner
Cc: gccmail@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Spam] Re: GCCMail:
The
16th/23rd
Avenue
Repaving Project
I think your letter is a bit long but a great idea. As a
daily
bike commuter (for the past 5 years and I live next to Brywood on
16th Ave),
navigating 16th ave is either side walk or suicide. You can certainly
add
me to the end of your letter as a supporter. In fact, a briefer
version
of your letter with the list of supporters (5000 GCC supporters listed
individually would be a nice start) might have some
impact.
One of the owners of Bike Works of
Jonesville
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Ed Gardner <egardner@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
After
attending the 16th/23rd Ave meeting, I have composed and am planning on
sending
this letter to the city and county commissioners. If anyone
thinks this is a Bad Idea, please drop me a line telling me
why
and maybe some suggestions as to what you think should be
changed.
Thanks.
Ed
Dear
Alachua County
and Gainesville City Mayor and Commissioners,
I attended the recent meeting at Littlewood school on the 16th/23rd Ave
repaving project. First, I want to thank all the council members for
soliciting public opinion on this project and for "keeping their
cool" as some of the public acted outrageously rude to you at the
meeting.
I also want to thank those of you who have in the past supported some of
the
excellent off-street and bike lane facilities we DO have in this county,
and
for your continued efforts to improve these facilities where this is
feasible,
for the 5000+ students and permanent residents of this county who make use
of
them daily, while leaving their cars at home. Your forward thinking
and
leadership in this regard is appreciated by this voter.
I am a 65 year-old recreational and commuting (daily) bicyclist. I
consider myself neither immature, crazy, nor suicidal for using my
bicycle
to ride my 10 mile round trip to a local gym every day. I have never
had
a crash in a car, never received a traffic citation moving
or stationary
in my entire life, nor been hit by a car while on my bike or a
motorcycle. I think of myself as a responsible citizen just trying to
live my life, improve my health, and save a tankfull of ever more expensive
gasoline each month, while removing one more unnecessary car from our
crowded
roads during the morning commute.
As a retired engineer interested in energy usage and conservation, it is my
belief based on available facts that we have reached "peak
petroleum"
production and that it is all downhill from here, and at an accelerated
rate
due to the massive growth rate of vehicular usage in China, which will also
inevitably reduce the market share of the world's petroleum supply that
will be
available for us in the USA. IF we are to continue to remain locally
mobile in our society, it will be through the use of smaller less-powerful
electric-drivetrain automobiles, busses, motorcycles and human powered
bicycles. As you correctly observed at this meeting, "the future
is
not going to be exactly like the past" and our major road projects
should
be designed for the future to the extent financially and technically
possible.
After discussing the limitations of the existing infrastructure with your
engineer at the beginning of the meeting, I feel that the "best"
technical solution for this corridor, an expansion of the width of the
roadway
to accommodate full legal-width bike lanes, is not practical due to the
cost of
reworking the drainage and underground utility structures to add the
additional
curb-to-curb width to do this project "right", while leaving the
residents 19.5' wide medians and curbs, wide enough to accommodate
perpendicularly the long SUVs some of them seem to want to use as
"commuter vehicles". Your county engineer has proposed a
good compromise, which is to reduce the medians to a legal 16.5' while
adding less-than-ideal 3.5' unofficial bike lanes, which would probably
work
satisfactorily if edged with "Botts dots" and "rumble
strips" on the white line to alert texting/dozing drivers if they
wander
out of their lanes; certainly these would be much better than nothing,
which is
what these roads present to bicycle riders now.
Unfortunately, even that "reasonable compromise" seems to be
opposed
by the most vocal and vociferous residents insisting on 12'
Interstate-highway-width lanes suitable for the speeders they SAY they
would
like to slow down. This seems illogical and self-contradictory to me,
if
not totally unexpected, but if public SAFETY is our primary concern, then
such
"traffic calming" features as an adjacent bike lane outlined with
a
haptically-assisted rumble strip SHOULD alert any drivers that this is a
narrower residential URBAN roadway with bike riders and pedestrians close
to
traffic, NOT a 60 mph controlled-access Interstate highway that just
happens to
be surrounded by houses and businesses and unarmored people. I know
that
*I* am always more careful when driving through areas where children are
close
by the roadway, particularly if I see them on skateboards, skates, or
bicycles
with adjacent lanes not barrier-separated from traffic. A 3.5'
bicycle
lane with rumble strips would be a valuable and visible road feature
separating
unpredictable school children walking on the sidewalks from 40 mph car
and
truck traffic.
When cycling, the greatest hazard to me where I must ride on sidewalks is from cars
that
stop, not at the wide white STOP line, but which do not stop until they are
parked right across the pedestrian/bike crosswalk at the edge of the
primary
arterial. I see this every time I ride; fewer than half of the cars
stop
where they are supposed to and fail to yield the right of way to bikes and
pedestrians in the crosswalk, causing me to have to either stop and wait
for
them to move while sitting exposed in the intersection crosswalk, or to
have to
leave the crosswalk and ride around and behind them to get by them.
This
is both dangerous and distracting to the bicycle rider, and wastes time and
momentum. This is the primary reason why most cyclists at the meeting
were advocating full legal bike lanes as part of the roadway rather than
the
sidewalks; car drivers seem to recognize bikes on the primary roadway as the part of the
traffic flow, whereas they think of them differently and
subordinately
when they are riding on the sidewalk or in marked crosswalks.
A secondary hazard to me (and to them) are pedestrians using the sidewalks
at
their much slower pace than bicycles. It seems that two of every
four pedestrians and nearly all runners today have iPod earbuds in their
ears
as they jog or walk with their small children and leashed dogs along the
sidewalks. Even when I shout or make warning noises as I approach
them
from behind, THEY DO NOT HEAR ME! My silent bike is going 15 to 20
mph
when I ride on the roadway, but I have to slow and frequently stop and wait
for
the pedestrians when I am forced to use the sidewalks, as they reel in
their
dogs and children. The rough slab intersections and
joint-height-faults
(every 4' !) make it very difficult for me to travel at anything
approaching
practical commute speeds on concrete walkway sections, which makes longer
commutes impossible and teeth-rattling riding the norm. Overhanging
weeds
and tree limbs (not a problem on the roadways) are a further hazard,
particularly during the dark morning and evening commute hours when they
cannot
be seen. In many of the areas of the city and county, and
particularly
along sections of 23rd
Ave,
the USEABLE width of the sidewalks is less than a foot or two, due to weeds
and
debris which overhang or overgrow the sidewalks. Even some of our
best
bike lanes are useable only at the inner edge next to the paint stripe, due
to
grass which has been allowed to grow over the majority of their width; I
won't
even talk about dodging garbage cans left in our "bike only"
lanes on
trash collection days by the garbage trucks, forcing us out into the car
travel
lanes. Like Rodney Dangerfield, we get "No respect!" by the
general public when travelling on sidewalks, and frequently are treated as
an
intrusive and startling nuisance; they think we belong in the streets when
travelling at commute speeds, and where safe to do so, so do we.
In conclusion, whatever the final decision is on the design of this
project, I
appreciate that you are collecting and considering public input and I trust
that the final plans will make this currently dangerous arterial roadway a
better link for bicyclists to the rest of the roadway system and improve
bicycle rider access to the businesses and schools which are located
on it
and/or accessed by travelling along it.
Sincerely,
Edward M Gardner
Resident, Alachua
County
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