Double pace lines are LEGAL and maybe you ought to re read the Statute

again!!!  or have someone translate the law for you.  I got news for you, 
until you put on the kind of miles on the road like me, you NOT a "real" 
cyclist, so maybe you should be the one to GET OFF the road.

Huan


>From: George Edwards <gedwards@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: gedwards@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: Huan Dinh <huan_dinh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: GCCMail: Critical Mass Rides
>Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 06:53:12 -0400
>
>Huan:
>
>Double pace lines are specifically illegal under Florida Statute 316 if

>there are cars behind you.	If you do not know the law get off the
road.
>
>George
>
>
>Huan Dinh wrote:
>>George,
>>
>>YOU are the one that should apologize to the GCC.  Apparently you
have no 
>>idea about the critical mass rides, well, at least not with the
critical 
>>mass rides that I have been on.  We ride in double paceline just
any 
>>normal GCC rides and follow all traffic laws.  Yes, other than
myself, who 
>>has been a member of the GCC for 20 yrs and counting, there are
many other 
>>members participate in the critical mass rides.  Please refrain
yourself 
>>from making offensive remarks to the majority in the future. 
Thanks.
>>
>>Huan
>>
>>
>>>From: "Tom Wells" <tbwells@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: GCCMail@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: Re: GCCMail: Critical Mass Rides
>>>Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 22:09:51 -0400
>>>
>>>I wholeheartedly agree with Gary Wheeler and take both umbrage
and
>>>exception to the comments here of George Edwards.  I apologize
to
>>>myself and to all the participants of Critical Mass, with whom
I have
>>>often ridden, for not having taken open exception to earlier
comments
>>>in like vein.
>>>
>>>It is incredible and reprehensible that Mr. Edwards holds that
the
>>>_expression_ of one's opinion in the forum of GCC e-mail "would
expose
>>>our Board of Directors and Officers to actions for negligence".
>>>[Let's review that as a paradigm for specious reasoning:  Mr.
Edwards
>>>declares an activity illegal.  To then espouse a contrary view
is -
>>>well - illegal.  The forum in which that dissent has been
manifest is
>>>thereby illegal (guilt by association - which is the whole of
the
>>>argument anyway), and hence endangered.  The police shall
descend,
>>>arrest the editors, destroy the presses, and burn the books. 
OK Wait!
>>>That is valid reasoning, valid fascist reasoning.  That is the
>>>linchpin of fascism.]  Whereas Mr. Edwards is free to calumn
and
>>>vilify that of which he evidently knows nought.
>>>
>>>I have neither energy nor inclination to argue the merits of a
cause
>>>with one whose fixed ideas have been so virulently expressed. 
I fall
>>>back on, both as refuge and in defense of, that which
undefended shall
>>>surely vanish: our civil liberties.  Getting together with
friends to
>>>ride bikes, motorcycles, or cars is not currently illegal.
>>>
>>>I have been known to drive a car over the speed limit.  I have
been
>>>known to ride a bike at less than the speed limit.	Apparently
the
>>>later activity, or even tolerance of that activity, is a crime.
>>>
>>>With Restraint,
>>>
>>>Tom Wells
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 9/2/06, George Edwards <gedwards@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>>>>Dear Friends:
>>>>
>>>>We received an email today from Gary Wheeler extolling the
virtues of
>>>>Critical Mass Rides.  Gary is wrong on all counts.  Dead
wrong.
>>>>Dangerously wrong.
>>>>
>>>>Critical mass rides are not expressions of the rights of
cyclists:
>>>>Critical mass rides violate the law, insult the public, and
harm all
>>>>cyclists by angering people against us.  The spoiled
children who take
>>>>part in them should be arrested and heavily fined, in my
opinion.  They
>>>>are people who have nothing important to do in their lives
except
>>>>project their hostility onto the public roads.
>>>>
>>>>These immature scoff-laws are not advocating for cyclists
rights, as
>>>>they claim.  They never have been, and never will.  They
are, instead,
>>>>acting to negate the hard work done by many real cycling
advocates over
>>>>many years to ensure that we all do have the right to
"Share the Road".
>>>>Mike Wohl is quite correct that critical mass riders and
all other
>>>>cyclists who deliberately and unnecessarily block motorists
anger the
>>>>other road users, needlessly risk their own safety, and
place other
>>>>cyclists in harms way.
>>>>
>>>>Let me make this clear:  Critical mass rides are against
the law.
>>>>Period.  Advocating them in this forum is seriously
irresponsible.
>>>>Gary's email has harmed the Gainesville Cycling Club.
>>>>
>>>>Bicyclists have the same rights and responsibilities on the
road as
>>>>motor vehicles.  Yes, responsibilities, which include
obeying the
>>>>Florida Statutes as they apply to all vehicles.  Critical
mass rides are
>>>>against the law.  To publish such a message on our webmail
might be
>>>>interpreted by law enforcement officials and others to
suggest the
>>>>Gainesville Cycling Club condones breaking the law.  Such a
position
>>>>would be in contradiction to our Articles of Incorporation
and By-Laws,
>>>>and would expose our Board of Directors and Officers to
actions for
>>>>negligence.
>>>>
>>>>No, critical mass rides can in no way be compared to the
civil rights
>>>>movement.  They are, instead, more like the tantrums thrown
by
>>>>ill-behaved children who insist on having their own way.
>>>>
>>>>Gary should retract his statements and apologize to the
GCC.
>>>>
>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>>George Edwards
>>>>President (Retired)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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