It is $40 per year. However, with all the parties, etc we have, surely the club could afford this. There is NO sign in, no ads, no spam, nada. Just your pictures in nice, professional galleries. And unlimited storage. You can also customize each gallery. I highly recommend it. I've had it now for 3 years. www.smugmug.com
Of course, there is no guarantee that none of these places will be in business 10 years from now!
R. Wilt wrote:
Create a fake account if you don't want to give your real information. They don't verify it. Also I have not seen any spam or promotions coming in from Kodak Gallery, so if that is your concern I wouldn't worry about it. And I wouldn't bother to sign up either to view rubbish.
As this conversation goes on, no doubt someone will say. 'Why not Snapfish?' . Spam!!!! Lots of spam. Forget about it.
Any other suggestions? We're talking $20 here folks. Lets not get too worked up about it. The real question is whether we want to keep the old albums available to members, these are currently linked to our website. So moving them will entail some work on Rogers part too. He will have to modify all of the urls associated, assuming we even can move them easily. Basically if we go to another service you should consider the old albums gone.
Actually, I'm a little surprised they would be asking for $20 based on this particular account, which I use exclusively for the GCC. I'm sure that people must occasionally be ordering pics of themselves from the posted albums. You would think they would consider this profit in light of the overall situation. I have no way of verifying how much money has actually been spent on print purchases once the albums are up and being viewed though, but I'm guessing in a year it is far more than $20. They probably do not have this business model though, because these albums are typically intended to be viewed by families, rather than large clubs. And any good business man knows you should rake bucks up wherever you can extort them.
The club has until the middle of May to pay this new charge, after that the albums will all be deleted from Kodak Gallery.
Rob
'What would Einstein do?'
Sent from my InFinite probAbility InterstellAr pAngAlActic gArgle blAsster
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Gary Greenberg <garymg@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Scott J. Pfaff" <SPfaff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Board GCC <GCCBoard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Please read: Our storage policy has changed
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:45:26 -0400
I too find the "Create an Account" coercion unacceptable -- I don't return to sites which require it.However, I think it's necessary to balance the $20 cost against the cost of moving said files.Some of those sites don't make it easy --- even for the owner -- to retrieve their data once it's uploaded.Gary
2009/3/25 Scott J. Pfaff <SPfaff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Can’t this be hosted on the GCC website which we already pay for hosting services? I know there is work involved in moving the images over but services like this and many other FREE internet services are going to start this kind of process to recoup costs for Data Center expenses. If we have our own pages serving the club photo history we are free to move them to any service provider we want simply by moving the folder structure. This would also eliminate the annoying “Create an Account” to view rubbish.
My two cents worth.
Scott
From: GCC VP [mailto:nullview@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:57 PM
To: Board GCC
Subject: Fw: Please read: Our storage policy has changed
Dear GCC Board,
Note the following missive from Kodak Gallery, the current repository for the clubs photos from past events. This previously free service is now going to be $20 per year. This is a small expense for the club against the loss of the clubs history in photos.
If anyone has any opposition to this continued service to the club, you should bring it up at the next board meeting. Otherwise I will assume the $20 will be forthcoming.
Considerable work and many hours have gone in to the uploading, sorting, titling, arranging and notification process associated with these archival photos at Kodak Gallery. I will not be repeating that process on previously worked photos at another photo presentation website. I suspect that any other currently free photo service will be similarly inclined to eventually charge fees for their services; at least once users have uploaded enough photos, and invested enough time in working them, that it becomes onerous to move them to another site. Clever eh? The perfect business model.
The outfall though, is that it is a small fee given the service provided.
Rob Wilt
GCC VP
Photo archive manager (of Kodak Gallery).
Twas brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe
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Subject: Please read: Our storage policy has changed
To: "Rob" <nullview@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 8:33 PM
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