I think both these lights are over kill - there are two different ways of looking at lighting.

1. Enough light so oncoming traffic can see you - almost anything will suffice.

2. Light to ride by - as Robert said, on a dark road. This is a function of speed. At slow speeds (<12 mph) it doesn't take much - and randonneurs descending in the dark at 30-35 mph find  two 3 watt lights (E-6s with Schmidt hub) more than adequate. For most riding in Florida, one E6 is plenty of light. See peterwhitecycles.com for prices. Plus, generator lights remove battery problems from the equation. More than $79, but you are always ready - for example, if you have a series of mechanical issues,or others in your group do, and you don't make it back before dark.

It's not the wattage that determines how good a light is for riding - it's a combination of reflector design and wattage. 2.6 hours of run time leaves precious little extra time for a decent ride and any delay.

With any light, a spare is always a good idea - unless you trust your battery completely, carry a spare bulb and believe that switches and wiring never fail (HAH).

As far as tail lights go, some are TOO bright - Dinotte is the worst offender. If you are blinding the rider behind you, it's too bright. If a car can see your light from a half mile back and still hits you, another mile won't make a difference - and that assumes a straight, level road where the driver can actually see you. Again, and probably more important, is redundancy - you know if your headlight goes out, but not your tail light.

BTW, I can't recall a close call at night except when the driver was obviously impaired - I'm not sure why this is, but I think day time riding is more dangerous.

On 10/2/07, Craig Lee <cell911@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
And if you want to go really extreme, check this out:
http://tinyurl.com/2y9qn4

Don't fall off your bike when you see the price.

--craig


On 10/1/07, robertwilt@xxxxxxxx < robertwilt@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Several people have asked me for a recommendation for a cheap light that
will do the job for night riding with the Strays.

This is the cheapest bright light system that I have seen that qualifies
for really dark riding on public roads.

http://www.batteryspace.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=3108

If you know of something cheaper, that is equivalently bright or
brighter, let the rest of us know. And don't tell me what manufacturers
say about how bright their lights are, its all bull. I'm talking about
actual experience with a light.

When considering a night riding light purchase, remember that the light
should cost at least as much as the visit to your local emergency room.
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