From the Archives: Who was Franchard? David Johnson (17 Jun 2026 16:47 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? Tom Rogers (17 Jun 2026 18:03 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? David Johnson (17 Jun 2026 20:49 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? Terrence Fugate (17 Jun 2026 21:01 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? Terrence Fugate (17 Jun 2026 20:32 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? David Johnson (17 Jun 2026 21:06 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? Terrence Fugate (17 Jun 2026 21:29 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? David Johnson (18 Jun 2026 00:10 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? Terrence Fugate (18 Jun 2026 00:17 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? David Johnson (18 Jun 2026 13:41 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? Terrence Fugate (18 Jun 2026 14:25 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? David Johnson (19 Jun 2026 00:47 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? dbernat (18 Jun 2026 22:44 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? David Johnson (19 Jun 2026 00:56 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? dbernat (19 Jun 2026 02:25 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? David Johnson (19 Jun 2026 13:06 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? Terrence Fugate (20 Jun 2026 17:37 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? David Johnson (20 Jun 2026 21:42 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? Terrence Fugate (20 Jun 2026 21:56 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? dbernat (20 Jun 2026 22:16 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? Terrence Fugate (20 Jun 2026 23:36 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? dbernat (21 Jun 2026 01:21 UTC)
Re: [HBP] Paulita's Quinceañera dbernat (21 Jun 2026 14:36 UTC)
Re: [HBP] Paulita's Quinceañera Terrence Fugate (21 Jun 2026 16:43 UTC)
Re: [HBP] Paulita's Quinceañera dbernat (21 Jun 2026 17:44 UTC)
Re: [HBP] Paulita's Quinceañera Terrence Fugate (21 Jun 2026 19:22 UTC)
Re: [HBP] Paulita's Quinceañera David Johnson (22 Jun 2026 03:33 UTC)
Re: [HBP] Paulita's Quinceañera Terrence Fugate (22 Jun 2026 11:42 UTC)
Re: [HBP] Paulita's Quinceañera dbernat (22 Jun 2026 23:24 UTC)
Re: [HBP] Paulita's Quinceañera David Johnson (22 Jun 2026 23:32 UTC)
Re: [HBP] Paulita's Quinceañera Terrence Fugate (22 Jun 2026 23:42 UTC)
Re: [HBP] Paulita's Quinceañera dbernat (23 Jun 2026 00:01 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? Terrence Fugate (21 Jun 2026 13:56 UTC)
Merlin (was: From the Archives: Who was Franchard?) David Johnson (21 Jun 2026 14:40 UTC)
Re: [HBP] Merlin dbernat (21 Jun 2026 15:03 UTC)
Re: [HBP] Merlin Terrence Fugate (21 Jun 2026 16:20 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? dbernat (21 Jun 2026 14:58 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? Terrence Fugate (21 Jun 2026 15:15 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? dbernat (21 Jun 2026 16:42 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? Terrence Fugate (21 Jun 2026 17:44 UTC)
Merlin (was: From the Archives: Who was Franchard?) David Johnson (21 Jun 2026 04:06 UTC)
Re: [HBP] Merlin dbernat (21 Jun 2026 05:34 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? Terrence Fugate (18 Jun 2026 00:36 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? David Johnson (19 Jun 2026 00:31 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? dbernat (19 Jun 2026 02:15 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? Terrence Fugate (20 Jun 2026 17:56 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? David Johnson (20 Jun 2026 22:05 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? Terrence Fugate (20 Jun 2026 22:21 UTC)
The Alliance (was: From the Archives: Who was Franchard?) David Johnson (21 Jun 2026 04:19 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? dbernat (20 Jun 2026 22:22 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? David Johnson (21 Jun 2026 04:26 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? David Sooby (19 Jun 2026 13:33 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? Jon Crocker (20 Jun 2026 21:20 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? Terrence Fugate (20 Jun 2026 21:49 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? David Johnson (21 Jun 2026 03:59 UTC)
Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? Gordon Johansen (18 Jun 2026 03:47 UTC)

Re: [HBP] From the Archives: Who was Franchard? dbernat 21 Jun 2026 01:21 UTC

Terrence Fugate wrote:

> OK a bit of my background so what I'm going to say has some context.
> [My background is odd]
>  I have a BS in electrical engineering and that was my professional
> life, I also have a BS in physical anthropology, a masters in European
> history with special emphasis on the 30 years war. Physical
> anthropology required taking ~90% of the same classes as the cultural
> folk.

Mathematics, economics, and East Asian languages degrees here. Plus
long-term residence outside the United States.

>  So I look at HBP's universes from a odd perspective. I'm fascinated
> by his technology and his sociology. Paula was one of my favorite
> characters.

I want videos of her QuinceaƱera.

>  Societies are complex, really complex. Can't begin to understand them
> with our best computers complex. Try to understand finance and drive
> yourself crazy complex.
>
>  A lot of things have to work just right for the society to function
> and survive. It doesn't make any real difference if the society is a
> theology, democracy, socialist, communist or representative democracy.
> Some forms of governance increase the chances a society will face the
> challenges necessary to survive.
>
>  In spite of 50 years of study, I'm not sure we humans understand all
> the things that have to work right. There are so many feedback loops,
> some positive, some negative. I accept we humans may never know all
> the variables necessary for a society to survive.
>
>  Foxx et al (the command staff with Merlin) were presented with enough
> data to convince them the Federation was beyond its use by date and
> the collapse couldn't be changed.
>
>  Let us say you (every member) is the head of government of the
> Canada, Russia, Great Britain, China or the USA and your specialists
> came to you with illruftable data showing your polity's days were
> numbered, and if you released that data, everything would collapse but
> keep quiet and someone might manage to build something new before the
> long darkness fell.

But why wait for someone? Why not try to deliberately get ahead of that
amorphous someone or someday?