Hello!
Terry, take a look at the Fuzzy stories. In Fuzzy Sapiens they need to
figure out why the rations that most people would only eat under
special circumstances are a great delight to the Fuzzies. CZC finds
out that the stuff is made from two sources. One  company in South
America is making it from wheat grown up here. The Southern Hemisphere
to make use of the Northern would need to wait about 5 centuries or so
for the radiation from numerous nuclear bomb blasts to go down before
anyone could consider doing anything with the ground. And even then
they'd have to do plenty of ground reclamation for it to work.
----
Gregg C Levine xxxxxx@gmail.com
"This signature was once found posting rude messages in English in the
Moscow subway."

On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 9:37 PM Terrence Fugate <xxxxxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Re: "The Fourth World War hadn't happened yet. That was the end of civilization in the Northern Hemisphere -- and of the "first" Federation."
>
> Yes, but wouldn't the South try to salvage the North after the end of civilization in the Northern Hemisphere, or would they just write them off?
>
>
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> Subject: [HBP] When in the Course -- (was: why does the Federation have such a robust military)
>
> Hi Terry.
>
> Is "When in the Course...." officially" part of Piper's Future History?
>
>
> Officially? Who knows? John including it in Federation works for me.
>
> If so, there is mention of the recovery of the Northern Hemisphere and dealing with the barbarian survivors. That'd offer a lot of down in the mud combat experience.
>
>
> Yep, but that was just from the Thirty Days' War (Third World War) and the era of the U.S. "first" Federation (and before the advent of interstellar travel).
>
> The Fourth World War hadn't happened yet. That was the end of civilization in the Northern Hemisphere -- and of the "first" Federation.
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
> --
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