Re: [HBP] Daily digest for H_Beam_Piper@simplelists.com Terrence Fugate (28 Aug 2025 16:37 UTC)
Re: [HBP] Collapsium dbernat (30 Aug 2025 05:28 UTC)
A political and social slant (was: Collapsium) David Johnson (30 Aug 2025 14:25 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant Gordon Johansen (30 Aug 2025 21:00 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Johnson (30 Aug 2025 21:36 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant Jon Crocker (30 Aug 2025 21:50 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Johnson (30 Aug 2025 23:39 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant Tom Rogers (31 Aug 2025 02:20 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant Jay P. Hailey (31 Aug 2025 04:17 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Johnson (31 Aug 2025 18:45 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant Jay P. Hailey (31 Aug 2025 20:55 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Johnson (31 Aug 2025 22:19 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant Jay P. Hailey (01 Sep 2025 01:55 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Sooby (01 Sep 2025 04:09 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Johnson (01 Sep 2025 07:00 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant Tom Rogers (01 Sep 2025 15:43 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Johnson (01 Sep 2025 17:07 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Sooby (01 Sep 2025 17:55 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant Tom Rogers (08 Sep 2025 17:36 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Sooby (08 Sep 2025 20:19 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant Tom Rogers (09 Sep 2025 00:09 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Sooby (09 Sep 2025 03:50 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant Tom Rogers (09 Sep 2025 04:59 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant Jay P. Hailey (09 Sep 2025 12:51 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant dbernat (09 Sep 2025 00:41 UTC)
Re: [HBP] Why ~Fuzzies and Other People~? dbernat (21 Sep 2025 23:47 UTC)
Re: [HBP] Why ~Fuzzies and Other People~? Jay P. Hailey (22 Sep 2025 00:03 UTC)
Re: [HBP] Why ~Fuzzies and Other People~? David Johnson (22 Sep 2025 03:58 UTC)
Re: [HBP] Why ~Fuzzies and Other People~? Jay P. Hailey (22 Sep 2025 04:04 UTC)
Re: [HBP] Why ~Fuzzies and Other People~? David Sooby (23 Sep 2025 04:24 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant Jay P. Hailey (16 Sep 2025 04:59 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant dbernat (02 Sep 2025 03:49 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Eden (02 Sep 2025 04:54 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Sooby (02 Sep 2025 17:05 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Johnson (31 Aug 2025 17:19 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant dbernat (31 Aug 2025 17:51 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Johnson (31 Aug 2025 22:00 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant dbernat (31 Aug 2025 22:19 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Johnson (01 Sep 2025 02:17 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant Jon Crocker (02 Sep 2025 02:43 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Johnson (02 Sep 2025 13:32 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant Mike Robertson (31 Aug 2025 20:55 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Johnson (31 Aug 2025 22:39 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Sooby (31 Aug 2025 22:46 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant Tom Rogers (01 Sep 2025 01:54 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Sooby (01 Sep 2025 02:26 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Sooby (31 Aug 2025 17:51 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant dbernat (31 Aug 2025 20:54 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant dbernat (31 Aug 2025 05:08 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant Jay P. Hailey (31 Aug 2025 13:25 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Johnson (31 Aug 2025 21:30 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant Jay P. Hailey (01 Sep 2025 01:54 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Johnson (31 Aug 2025 21:26 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant dbernat (31 Aug 2025 22:29 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant Jay P. Hailey (01 Sep 2025 01:53 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Johnson (01 Sep 2025 02:29 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant David Eden (01 Sep 2025 04:08 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant dbernat (01 Sep 2025 06:45 UTC)
Re: [HBP] A political and social slant Jay P. Hailey (01 Sep 2025 06:59 UTC)

A political and social slant (was: Collapsium) David Johnson 30 Aug 2025 14:23 UTC

Hi David.

>> "As my stories all have a political and social slant instead of a
>> physical-science slant, I think the one author who influenced me most
>> was Nicco Machiavelli, with H. L. Mencken placing and Karl von
>> Clausewitz showing." - H. Beam Piper, "Double: Bill Symposium"
>> interview [1]
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Khaldun
>
> for collapses of empires

I'm sure that Beam (and Otto Harkaman) would have really appreciated Ib'n Khaldun's approach to history but it would seem he wasn't yet well-enough known -- at least among lay historians in English-speaking North America -- for Beam to be aware of the Arab historiographer during the time he was writing.

Cheers,

David
--
"And I don't read inside-dope magazines, or science fiction. I read carefully substantiated facts." - Max Pottgeiter (H. Beam Piper), "The Edge of the Knife"