Hello!
Group? In my Ace copy of Uller Uprising, all are present. Oddly enough
the same was true for the e-book version, which was in fact copied
(scanned from) an Ace book. It's possible that the Ace editors worked
from an original manuscript that Piper wrote himself, and the example
you are citing Jon was also done appropriately.
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On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 12:20 AM Jon Crocker <xxxxxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Hey there -
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> That's interesting about the little things left out of the different editions.  Of course, having the hero of the piece being descended from South American Nazis is a good way to show that you're not in Kansas anymore.
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> Well, that and the Ullerans yelling "Znidd Suddabit!"
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> Jon
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> Hi Jon.
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> "Once, on a three-months' reaction-drive voyage from Yggdrasill to Loki, he (von Schlichten) had taught a couple of professors of extraterrestrial zoology to playkriegspiel, and before the end of the trip, he was being horrified by the callous disregard they showed for casualties."
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> That was the first I'd heard of that game, and I recently came across a video talking about the history of wargaming - and it showed a kriegspiel set.  From the look of it, never would have guessed how old it was, would have pegged it as an Avalon-Hill big bruiser of a game from the 1950s.
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> Huh.
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> I've also stumbled across that mention by von Schlichten and at times wondered if it was something added by the editors of the Ace edition.[*] (I have a copy of The Petrified Planet but it's not typically what I reach to for a reread.) I'd also assumed it must have been referring to an Avalon Hill edition of game:
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> https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3602/kriegspiel/credits
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> which would have been around when the Ace edition was being put together but not back when Beam was writing the original version published in that Twayne Triplet in the early '50s. Like you, I had no idea the game's origins were so much older.
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> What this shows, of course, if the depth of detail in Beam's storytelling. He's was painting a picture of von Schlichten here, as a child growing up playing a Prussian game his great-umpty-great-grandfather brought with him when he fled to Argentina. Fascinating.
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> Thanks for sharing this.
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> David
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> [*] Besides the mention of kriegspiel, even the bit about von Schlichten being the descendant of Nazis wasn't included in the 1953 Space Science Fiction edition. Seems editor Lester Del Rey was having none of that. . . .
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> "The Quintons had to leave France about the same time; they were what was known as collaborationists." - Paula Quinton (H. Beam Piper), Uller Uprising
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